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::"We need Schleswig-Holstein, Khanate of Khiva, Mecklenburg, Tuscany, and Swiss Confederation."-1 down, 4 to go! [[User:CoconutFred|CoconutFred]] 18:15, 19 December 2010 (MST)
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Most of this is written as "the game will be..."  which looks odd now its released.  I could just change the tense but as I don't have game can't tell if info would be correct.  Can someone who's got game have a go at it? -[[User:Makanyane|Makanyane]] 15:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 
Most of this is written as "the game will be..."  which looks odd now its released.  I could just change the tense but as I don't have game can't tell if info would be correct.  Can someone who's got game have a go at it? -[[User:Makanyane|Makanyane]] 15:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
  
 
Done. - Astaroth
 
Done. - Astaroth
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Can someone add the Elite Units of the West DLC, the other non-SF down-loadable units, and the Warpath expansion? [[User:Fire-dweller|Fire-dweller]] 20:32, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
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What about the Pirates? [[User:Fire-dweller|Fire-dweller]] 23:03, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
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We need Schleswig-Holstein, Khanate of Khiva, Mecklenburg, Tuscany, and Swiss Confederation. [[User:Fire-dweller|Fire-dweller]] 20:11, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
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They need to put in pictures of the gameplay so the players know what it looks like, that would be much better for the page
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== Expanding the wiki regarding tactics and general information  ==
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Before I start, I wish to apologize since I know this is probably not the right place to post this. If this indeed isn't the right place, I would be grateful if someone could point me in the right direction. I'm new to this wiki, so please be patient with me.
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I'll be blunt. Most, if not all, of the articles here (regarding Empire: Total War at least) are literally directly copied from the game descriptions themselves, and put under sections called "Overview"s. Firstly, I would argue that such passages are not overviews, but would fall more under the category of "Game Description"s since they are directly copied from the game without any elaboration. Secondly, I would like to point out that the goal of wikis is to inform the public (in this case, gamers) of their topics. If the readers had wished to see the unit descriptions, word to word from the game, they probably need to look no further than the game itself. I believe that articles should provide additional information, including supplementary historical facts for those interested (several of the unit descriptions are just copies of each other, although historically they were all unique), as well as at least some gameplay information which can answer basic stuff such as "What are grenades and their applications?" and "What is canister shot?". The pages even lack some of the information provided directly in the game, such as charge bonus, defense bonus, firepower, etc. I understand that there is a fine line between explaining the application of tactics and weapons and opinionated information not suitable for wikis, but it's certainly better than nothing at all. Finally, in the few places where the editors have contributed their original work, spelling and grammatical errors are very common.
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I also believe that individual articles about the classes (as opposed to the individual units) of "Line Infantry", "Light Infantry", "Artillery" etc. should be added since they cover information regarding all the units in those categories, rather than exclusively for the generic units named after them.
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To sum up, I believe substantial editing of the existing articles is required, to transform them from simple restatements of game descriptions into informative and easy-to-read articles. The formats of the boxes under the unit portraits should be edited to include game stats such as charge bonus etc., existing grammatical and spelling errors should be corrected, and individual articles summing up the uses for the basic unit types. Please write to me directly for your thoughts and, if you have the authority, to recommend me to get to work on such articles (or not).
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Sincerely, Frederick 09:50, 31 July 2011 (MDT)

Latest revision as of 14:44, 1 August 2011

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"We need Schleswig-Holstein, Khanate of Khiva, Mecklenburg, Tuscany, and Swiss Confederation."-1 down, 4 to go! CoconutFred 18:15, 19 December 2010 (MST)

Most of this is written as "the game will be..." which looks odd now its released. I could just change the tense but as I don't have game can't tell if info would be correct. Can someone who's got game have a go at it? -Makanyane 15:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. - Astaroth

Can someone add the Elite Units of the West DLC, the other non-SF down-loadable units, and the Warpath expansion? Fire-dweller 20:32, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

What about the Pirates? Fire-dweller 23:03, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

We need Schleswig-Holstein, Khanate of Khiva, Mecklenburg, Tuscany, and Swiss Confederation. Fire-dweller 20:11, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

They need to put in pictures of the gameplay so the players know what it looks like, that would be much better for the page

Expanding the wiki regarding tactics and general information

Before I start, I wish to apologize since I know this is probably not the right place to post this. If this indeed isn't the right place, I would be grateful if someone could point me in the right direction. I'm new to this wiki, so please be patient with me.

I'll be blunt. Most, if not all, of the articles here (regarding Empire: Total War at least) are literally directly copied from the game descriptions themselves, and put under sections called "Overview"s. Firstly, I would argue that such passages are not overviews, but would fall more under the category of "Game Description"s since they are directly copied from the game without any elaboration. Secondly, I would like to point out that the goal of wikis is to inform the public (in this case, gamers) of their topics. If the readers had wished to see the unit descriptions, word to word from the game, they probably need to look no further than the game itself. I believe that articles should provide additional information, including supplementary historical facts for those interested (several of the unit descriptions are just copies of each other, although historically they were all unique), as well as at least some gameplay information which can answer basic stuff such as "What are grenades and their applications?" and "What is canister shot?". The pages even lack some of the information provided directly in the game, such as charge bonus, defense bonus, firepower, etc. I understand that there is a fine line between explaining the application of tactics and weapons and opinionated information not suitable for wikis, but it's certainly better than nothing at all. Finally, in the few places where the editors have contributed their original work, spelling and grammatical errors are very common.

I also believe that individual articles about the classes (as opposed to the individual units) of "Line Infantry", "Light Infantry", "Artillery" etc. should be added since they cover information regarding all the units in those categories, rather than exclusively for the generic units named after them.

To sum up, I believe substantial editing of the existing articles is required, to transform them from simple restatements of game descriptions into informative and easy-to-read articles. The formats of the boxes under the unit portraits should be edited to include game stats such as charge bonus etc., existing grammatical and spelling errors should be corrected, and individual articles summing up the uses for the basic unit types. Please write to me directly for your thoughts and, if you have the authority, to recommend me to get to work on such articles (or not).

Sincerely, Frederick 09:50, 31 July 2011 (MDT)