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− | Remember: The nominated AAR must have at least 2 updates in July or August.
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− | '''The Nomination Thread is stickied at the top of the page''' [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=370838 here]</center>
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− | ====GC 119 Winner====
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− | ''[[Sniper_LTU]]'' has won this week's Graphics Competition. Congratulations!
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− | '''Winner announcements are stickied at the top of the page''' [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=466141 here]
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− | ''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/member.php?u=34527 MorganH.] has conquered the PoTW 260 challenge and emerged as the Champion with this shot. Congratulations MorganH.!''
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− | '''Winner and Submission Threads are stickied on this page [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=33 here]</center>
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− | ''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/member.php?u=111486 Salvator] has emerged the victor of competition 163 for un-edited screen shots with this beautiful submission.''
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− | ==<center>'''The Writers Study Forum Description'''</center>==
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− | The [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1353 Writers Study] is divided into the '''After Action Reports''' , the '''Monthly After Action Competition''' , '''Tale of The Week''' , '''Creative Writing''' , TWC Members Blogs , section and threads regarding this forum in general.
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− | or in short: [[AAR]]s are gathered here. There are 3 major AAR sections:
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− | #[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=391 Total War Eras AARs]
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− | #[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=268 Medieval 2: Total War AARs]
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− | #[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1052 Empire: Total War AARs]
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− | #[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1446 Napoleon: Total War AARs]
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− | #[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1359 Non-TW AARs]
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− | <center><h4 style="padding:5px; background-color:#666989; color:white;"> AAR Competitions </h4></center>
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− | AARs for previous/or non Total War games are stored inside the 4. subforum, [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=747 AAR Competitions]. As the name already says, the [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=747 Monthly AAR Competition], or in short: MAARC, is held here.
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− | Each months, writers can nominate their AARs if they were at least 2 times updated in the same month. After the 4 Week nomination period, usually a 10 days voting is held to find the 3 best AARs in this month.
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− | Winning the MAARC gets you a score/leadership points:
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− | # place: '''4''' points
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− | # place: '''3''' points
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− | # place: '''2''' points
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− | These points can be gathered to finally gain the three [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=175679 AAR Competitions Medals!]
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− | The [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=802 Tale of the Week Contest] is a good way to boost your creativity:
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− | Each Week a picture, often from the [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=33 Picture of the Week Contest], gets chosen and the participants write a short story, or tale about the picture, ranging from minimum 200 to 500 maximum words.
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− | The winner of the weekly contest is awarded '''1''' point for the AAR Competitions Medals Scoreboard.
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− | ''Important members of this forum: [[Hesus de bodemloze]],,[[molls]],[[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]] - moderation''
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− | ===Gondor, Gondor between the mountains and the sea!===
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− | With the release of the Third Age: Total War Modification, it was only a matter of time until the first tales and stories began to unfold.
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− | [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=258409 This Gondor AAR] is written by 2 members, being: [http://http//www.twcenter.net/forums/member.php?u=26846 sithlord447] and [http://http//www.twcenter.net/forums/member.php?u=41713 Coeur de lion].
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− | In a short introduction by Ecthelion, the current Steward of Gondor, he tells of a man that married his daughter. His name is Mistven, a trusted Captain of Gondor.
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− | The AAR is written in form of excerpts from the Gondorian Annals; it tells the battles and bloody events through the eyes of Mistven, while the actions are commented on by Ecthelion, who as a Steward, stays at home and is forced to rely on news from the front.
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− | Solid writing, mixed with small potions of poetry, the battle screenshots and of course the Lord of the Rings feeling make this AAR a nice read!
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− | ===='''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1145 Kampf um Europa]'''====
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− | [[File:Kue2.png|200px|left]]
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− | Kampf um Europa (Battle for Europe) is a Community RPG/AAR Campaign that pits Prussia, commanded and led by a staff of TWC members, against the turbulent Europe of the 18th Century.
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− | At its very core lies one basic rule: the campaign is what you make of it. No player is invincible, no player is all powerful. By working with or against your fellow Officers of the Reich, you have a direct say in the operation of the Empire.
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− | In its current form, the General Staff forms the strategic level of the Reich. The War Branch, Doctrine Branch, and Internal Branch all work together under the direction of the Chief of Staff, to set policy, run economics and research, and develop and deploy the forces of the Landheer (Army), Kriegsmarine (Navy) and Deutsches Marine Korps (Marines).
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− | Beneath them is a pool of Commissioned Officers, Admirals and Marines, who command the combat forces of the Reich in battle.
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− | Read the [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5141770#post5141770 whole introduction HERE]!
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− | *coming soon
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− | *coming as soon as ETW DEMO
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− | <center><h2 style="padding:5px; background-color:#666989; color:white;"> AAR Useful Links </h2></center>
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− | ===Competition===
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=225827 Announcements]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=175679 Rules&FAQs]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=180009 Medal leaderbord points]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=247145 Complete leaderboard points + TotW]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=154625 AARs - Tips and Notes]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=134145 How to start an AAR]
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− | *[http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=103522 Writing in general - links]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=229938 Some tips for making comedic AARs]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=179540 AARtist's Group: General AAR talk, advice and Tips]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=229960 AAR Library]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=164161 Tweety's Library]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=254093 Rome: TW AARs Index]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=254091 Medieval 2: TW AARs Index]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=254090 Empire: TW AARs Index]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=246697 AAR Reviews: The Critic's Quill]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=244252 Aster's Article Repository]
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− | ===AAR Hall of Fame===
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182728 Amazing AARs in here]
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− | ===Recently Started Community Games===
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− | *New RPG: [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1169 You Are The Congress]
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− | *New RPG: [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1145 Kampf um Europa]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=194003 Discussion: What makes a good RPG?]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=198831 RPG Subforum Requirements]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=232094 Discussion about RPGs and the Community]
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− | [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=946 The Graphics Workshop] is THE place for all your artistic needs regarding:
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− | *Picture editing and general editing '''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=949 Tutorials]'''
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− | *Avatar and Signature '''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=68048 Requests]'''
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− | *Your own '''Gallery''' - show off your work, earn respect and constructive criticism
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− | *A massive '''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1110 Help Section]'''
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− | *'''Content and Art Staff''': They will create everything for you:
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− | And of course the Graphics Competition -
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− | Each week artists race against each other to create pictures about general topics in signature style - for the [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=243156 Graphics Competition Medals]!
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− | *3 wins earn you the Graphics Competition Bronze Medal
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− | *9 wins earn you the Graphics Competition Silver Medal
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− | *15 wins earn you the Graphics Competition Gold Medal
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− | ''Important members of this forum: [[Giovi]],[[y2day]],[[MarcelP]] - Art/Content Staff''
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− | ===<center>Giovi's Workshop</center>===
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− | One of the most successful GW artists will present [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207679 his Workshop] to you:
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− | "Well, I use and love photoshop because you can make everything and express the artist inside your soul...I keep exploring and learning; You can clearly see the difference between my old works and my new ones!
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− | Most of the stuff in my workshop are signatures made for my personal use and for others members, but there also are several wallpapers as well as tons of other stuff.
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− | For me, it is important to advertise mods and other sections of the forum.
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− | Basically I love everything about digital art and I blend different pics in various ways to make something totaly different and personal.
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− | In my works I want to express a great pathos and my works are generally dark."
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− | * [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=259502 Art Staff News]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=949 All tutorials in one spot]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=227460 Tutorial Index]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=245571 Link Collection]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1110 The Help section]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207426 GW Introduction and Rules]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=217691 Propose the next Graphics Competition Themes]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=216245 The Hall of Fame]
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− | This is the place for all your Total War Games Screenshots!
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− | The [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=33 Forum] gets divided into the [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1039 Weekly Competitions] and the [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1040 Gallerias].
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− | #The '''Unedited Screenshot of the Week Contest''', in short UESW, allows ONLY UNEDITED Total War Screenshots. The emphasis lies on the perfect shot at the perfect time.
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− | '''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=224737 Picture of the Week Medal]''':
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− | *Bronze: 3 Wins
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− | Create your own Screenshot Gallery! Show off your pics, talent and style - earn reputation, constructive criticism, reknown and the attention of other members.
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− | ''Important members of this forum: [[B. Ward]], PotW Manager''
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− | ===<center>Lolgast's Gallery</center>===
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− | [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=197971 The Gallery] of [[Lolgast]] is definately a proof how much people can enhance and improve their sense of picturetaking, as well as their skill to edit those pictures.
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− | Lolgast started off with some pretty heavy and overdone editing, but even there - right at the beginning of his PotW carreer - you could spot that he understands how the basis picture has to look like to make a good final piece of art.
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− | He started off with R:TW screens, with dark and somehow blurred graphics, then moved on to animated Pictures, including his famous "the last seconds before the end". After that he got active in the Graphics Workshop too, and by then you could see an impressive enhancement of his works.
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− | When the Empire hype started, Lolgast was the first one to grab the opportunity by its horns and took an official screenshot from IGN, edited in and backed it up with a [http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/lolgast/empttw.jpg breathtaking background] - this won him his first PotW contest.
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− | After that his recent empire works have superb, warm graphics and do really please the eye! Example:
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− | ===Competitions===
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=224748 Suggestions in here]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=224737 Rules and Information]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=154963 Detailed Winner Statistics]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=185152 Massive Tutorials]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=190608 Tips on Picture Editing]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=137925 Official TW Video and Machinima Thread]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75965 PotW's number 1]: [[crypel]]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=140788 Another Champion]: [[Toboe]]
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− | *[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=117257 The King of hilarious editing]: [[Argent Usher]]
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− | '''R'''ole '''P'''laying '''G'''ames, in short [[RPG]]s, are a complex and highly entertaining way to interact and "play" with other members on TWC.
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− | People usually play [[Hotseat]] Campaigns. In general, all participants of one RPG choose one faction for the game and pick their characters (Family Members, Agents, etc) out of this faction. Then everyone acts out his role or character to turn a simple Total War campaign into a vivid theatre play or rather, a novel! Most RPGs have introduced a complex game system with political aspects and structures.
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− | [http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=968 Consulate Subforum].
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− | #'''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1498 Land of the Rising Sun]''' Japan, a ancient Empire divided by war. Will you, warrior, honor your ancestors with victory and power, or will your name be forgotten by history?
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− | #'''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=266 God Save the King! (A Medieval RPG)]''' A world of political strife, great battles, and ever changing allegiances. The most active RPG.
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− | #'''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1420 The Kingdom of England]''' Welcome to Saxon England can you rise to greatness and forge a dynasty worthy of a saga?
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− | #'''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=513 You Are the Senate]''' Roman RPG, second most active.
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− | #'''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=841 Augustus!]''' RTW hotseat/PBeM game, where all or several factions are controlled by human players.
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− | #'''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1145 The Republic of Venice]''' In a Serene Republic, not all is as it seems... With Treachery and Murder at your doorstep, what will you do? Become a General, perhaps even be Doge after long enough... It is all, up to you.. A new RPG.
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− | #'''[http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1408 Vive l' Empire]''' Battle for Europe, By War or Diplomatics you decide! - lead the French Empire through the turbulent 19th century in this NTW community game. A new RPG.
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