Talk:Frederick

Dear Frederick, I appriciate what you are doing on the Wiki, but I would prefer it if you would refrain from simply renaming sections on pages, for example renaming "Overview" to "Game Description" on the Empire Total War Units. As a member of the TWC Wiki staff, I would ask you to please re edit the pages you changed so that that that section is still named "Overview". Of course you may retain the section you put in, but I would greatly appreciate it if you could rename it "Tactics." For an example of exactly how a page should look, please refer to the 12 pounder foot artillery page, which I have corrected and completed. The reason I ask is that we do have a standard layout which we are implementing for all the units for ETW and NTW, and will eventually roll out to the other games, and we would appreciate it if that were not fiddled with, since it means more work at our end. Regards, Tango12345 09:05, 18 September 2011 (MDT)

Its impossible for me or anyone else to keep track of every single edit that goes on-note also that most of us have been on holiday up until about 3 weeks ago, and the wiki is a very large thing to police, considering there are only two fully active wiki adminstrators, and one of them is also a TWC Staff Moderator. What also didn't help is that I was working on the categories etc for units you had not yet edited, and well as a load of admin tasks which hadn't been done for at least 2 years, and as such had no idea what you were doing until 3 days ago. Rest assured I acted on it as soon as I could, as ever. Your information is useful, but we don't like it when people rename sections or delete huge reams of stuff (not that you actually did that, I only mention it for completeness). What is also not good to put on the wiki are sections like "Trivia" (this isn't a place for random info, that kind of thing can usually be put in the overview or tactics sections) and matters of opinion (a wiki is a place for fact, not opinion). However, I will thank you for actually editing the wiki and adding things to it, not enough people do that seriously. Tango12345 02:20, 19 September 2011 (MDT)

"Unit Overview" does not have enough of a difference in title from the actual overview above it (I'm looking at the line infantry page you just edited). Would you mind renaming it to something else? "Information" or "Details" will do.Tango12345 11:57, 21 September 2011 (MDT)

That would be perfect. Tango12345 06:11, 22 September 2011 (MDT)

Since there are only 3 government types it would be better to put those on the main Empire Total War page, likewise with the tech tree. Neither of those really warrant their own article. By all means put the information up though. Upkeep and training costs etc can have their own page (under "Unit Costs" or somesuch), as can Experience, but they would have to refer to all the TW games not just ETW-these are traits that all the games share in much the same way. Company strength and firepower are not really needed-I can't see how one can have a huge amount of info on that other than what is already clear. Tango12345 11:10, 12 October 2011 (MDT)

No, that is not necessary for two reasons. The first is that it is an incredibly difficult and time consuming job to undertake, and second that info is the first thing to be changed when anyone mods the game. There is also the fact that some of the values are bugged and don't show up in the game correctly. I will get around to dealing with the unit table templates eventually, to incorporate that info, but it will not happen yet. Tango12345 09:04, 20 October 2011 (MDT)

A quick word of advice on your edits. Please try to avoid value judgements like "fabulously" etc. A comment on how good/bad a unit or starting position is fine and a good idea, but please back it up and whatever you do don't leave it looking like nothing more than an opinion. That is much better for the wiki quality wise. Tango12345 15:44, 12 April 2012 (MDT)

Yes, and about my advice? Tango12345 13:17, 14 April 2012 (MDT)

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Hey Frederick,

First of all, I would like to thank you for all the work you have been doing here for TWC wiki, it's pretty good & we appreciate all the help you have been giving us. Secondly I would like to ask you whether do you have an account on TWC forums? If not then I would like to request that you make one by registering there, as I would like to recruit you as an official wiki editor of TWC wiki that will grant you a broader view of things, if, you're interested in further contributing.

Regards

Ishan 07:52, 5 June 2012 (MDT) (Wiki Director)

Frederick did you see Ishan's comment above? I am now Wiki Director not him but the offer still stands. Tango12345 01:45, 10 December 2012 (MST)

Then I will take your response as a no and leave it at that. I would however advise you to keep an eye on the recent changes page before regarding something as dead, because this wiki is not. You just can't see the wiki staff forum on TWC and the plans I have laid out there in the last couple of weeks, which is fair enough as you don't appear to have a TWC account and certainly aren't TWC staff. Tango12345 11:38, 11 December 2012 (MST)

You know, the best thing about a wiki talk page is that I know what is written there even if it is subsequently deleted ;). You were correct, in a way. For quite a while the game areas of the wiki were pretty much abandoned and mod pages varied wildy, though "dead" is too strong a term as that would require no edits at all. That isn't the case any more however, and we've started by commencing a long-overdue upgrade of the ETW unit pages. Tango12345 07:30, 6 February 2013 (MST)

That requires you to have a TWC user account-do you have one? Tango12345 17:09, 14 March 2013 (MDT)

Various responses

Well, you require a TWC account to be a member of the wiki staff, so if you still wish to apply that needs to be done first.

I don't think such a note is necessary on each and every page.

Unit stats are almost always the first thing that a mod changes, and they vary on unit difficulty. We came to the decision as the Wiki Team not to bother.

This wiki could benefit from a lot of things. If you want to make a tech page for a game go ahead. I would avoid doing the buildings however, as those will be the next big job for the wiki team after the units.

Tango12345 09:40, 26 March 2013 (MDT)