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General Updates Discussion

• Post your suggestions here, please avoid making large changes to the front page without first gaining permission of the Wiki Editor, or a general consensus of contributors.

Someone mentioned to me that the week commencing date on the front page should be commencing from a Sunday not a Monday - anyone have any objection to it changing to that system?

Also if anyone doesn't fancy doing DIY editing of front page could they dump ideas for news changes etc. in here? --Makanyane 11:03, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Regarding the Mod Spotlight image, it occurred to me today that it the image size should probably be standardised to prevent the image overlapping onto the news section below in the future. An embedded image set to a specific size would have probably done the trick, but it looks pretty ugly against the colour of the background, so I've left it as a standard image for now (though i shrunk it a bit and added a border with matching colour). --Spiff 12:45, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

Thanks Spiff. Think there might be some differences in how things display between browsers. Old size looked fine to me and don't understand what you meant about overlap, could you view the old version from history and give link to screenie somewhere? Also as its similar does Medieval_2:_Total_War look right to you? --Makanyane 18:00, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

Hmm this is what i mean [1] (sorry apparently photobucket resizes images now). I run my desktop at 1400x1050 and the old image kind of fell down onto the news section below it. It will depend on the resolution the page is viewed at more than anything i suppose. Also that Medieval 2 page looks fantastic to me.--Spiff 18:45, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

Ah that explains re-checked mine which was [2], smaller does look better anyway as text is now less squished on mine. I just couldn't work out how it had got into news section. Must depend on size of pic, relative to amount of text, relative to screen resolution, which would be fun to work out permutations for! Current revised size (about 320 x 180 pixels) looks like good bet so will aim to stick to that. --Makanyane 19:09, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

Picture of the week?

I had planned on updating the main page to this: http://www.twcenter.net/wiki/Spiff_test, i was wondering if anyone had any thoughts? If no one really thinks it looks worthwhile then ill just leave things as they are for now.--Spiff 14:25, 10 March 2008 (CDT)

Looks good, not sure if it could do with a bit more space though, how about swapping it with the TW News section in the middle column, which doesn't get much action in it. Or even put the PotW where Mod spotlight is, Mod spotlight under it and shift the news section to the right.... then the bit that should change most often is given the most prominent spot in the middle? -Makanyane 16:11, 10 March 2008 (CDT)

Im not sure if it would look too good in the middle, its kind of a small thing and doesn't take up enough space to justify that amount. The most prominent bit i tend to think of is the top of the page, probably top right - at least that's where i figure my eye would be drawn to. Since i cant really put it at the very top right, i figured one down would be best --Spiff 18:01, 10 March 2008 (CDT)

Anyone want to change the title of Marquis de Sade to Octy?

A New Style?

I was considering the portal style templates used on the Modding_Portal page, perhaps it would be a good idea to use this format for information on the front page? Essentially we could have 2, one which replicates the current table which was recently added with regard to modding tools etc, and another below it regarding the Total War community. -Spiff

As purely personal opinion I think idea could work, would you be able to do bit of draft using the Modding Portal page? so more complete version can be seen - also wasn't sure about that one in terms of colour / style as it seems a bit alien from rest of wiki pages and side bars atm, would you propose changing that? -Mak.

Well since i was up late tonight anyway, i wrote up and half finished a possible new outline over at Spiff_test - let me know what you think. It doesn't use the modding portal template, i borrowed the style from another wiki (first one i found on google that looked good). On the plus side, it is easy to edit/understand. -Spiff

Good to see it implemented. A thread should be pinned in the Medieval2 Mod Workshop forum (or somewhere similar) saying that the wiki is a good place to start for tutorials and such --Spiff 10:26, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

I did add a note in the Tutorial section http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=92488. under Trajan's pin so we shouldn't do any-more spamming in that specific section. Could try in the workshop as well but don't overstate the case, we're still rather light on content, so need balance between advice to look here and appeal for help adding content. Makanyane 11:05, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

Re-designing Left Side of Main Page?

Something to discuss amongst the Wiki people, but I think the left bar could use a thorough re-thinking and design. It hasn't been of much use to date, can something else go there instead? Maybe links to how to better help the Wiki? Since this is a wiki for a forum-centric site, most of the impetus to fix comes from the site and not directly from the Wiki, so I think... something, not sure what. Its late. Anyway, I'd suggest replacing High Quality Articles with a small article spotlight for the week so there is some sort of turnover, and the rest can be important Wiki links. I think things like the FAQ and ToS should be linked to from the main Wiki page, as well as the Modding Portal and Say Cheese Index and other central "hubs" that are on the Wiki and nowhere else. Maybe some Most Wanted articles on the bottom, but (maybe this is where the forum-centric comes into play), I don't see what can really go there that someone not coming from the forum for a specific reason could contribute. - Professor420 00:55, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

agreeing with that in principle, in terms of detail, see what Scorch and others come up with as suggestions - all the bits that need regular updating really need an individual to agree to look after them to make sure they actually happen, in past we've decided it would be nice idea to have most recent...blah, but then it doesn't get updated! What I'd personally like to see really prominent in that side bar is links to portals Category:Portals those two for M2 and RTW (or whatever they become), could start something for ETW Portal (though its only got the one page atm), the Modding_Portal as soon as its populated, and could probably do with a TWC Portal as well to organise entrance to that area a bit better. Could even shift some of the most wanted / most popular stuff to a "Wiki User Portal" ala: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Portal, to give link in to the stuff in TWC Wiki: - that depends if that side is worth developing, the fact that this IS forum centric makes it a struggle to get people to use that sort of area! -Makanyane 01:25, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

General talk/off topic

Oh my god... You have any forums left professor? I heard that you were banned from SCC as well... What are you going to do?

Also stupid as I am, who is Besin and what exactly is ogres. Is it like EZboard? Also does anyone rank above Besim?-Angmar nite

Yes, I was banned from SCC in similar circumstances. An administrator that was extremely detached from the community, who refused to listen to his members, and was destroying his site. And where is SCC now? Its lost its hosted mods and its lost its moderators and many of its members. Before you speak you should have an idea what you are talking about.

Amir created a duplicate account and claimed it was mine, and banned me. Can I be at fault for my permaban when the cause was something I didn't even do? Its what he had to do to get rid of me, because I had the support of almost all of the top 20 posters on the site, he couldn't just say 'I banned him because I didn't like him." Now shush. -Professor420

Holy poo diss bring out the burnage machine!

-.Socrates

Hi guys, I found so much useful things here. Thank you.

most of this talk doesn't seem to belong to this page anymore - could it be deleted / moved?

off topic talk was re-organised instead

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Can someone please change the title of the article Dorian Gray to Marquis de Sade?

yep, done, but you should really put request on the articles discussion page not here-Makanyane 03:02, 26 August 2007 (CDT)

Query on TW Game

first time:: I'm not sure if my input/ ideas fit here but here goes..........

Has there been any thought or movement to revamp the Shogun series? if not I have a request ---- thought as to its rebuilding and re-introduction with a Korean / Chinese mod with the Asia's own 7years war between Korea & Japan with the Chinese intervention added in with there own agenda all sides had gun powder (LIMITED)in use, but only the Japanese had hangunners initially with the Koreans just stating to use cannons eventually then they put them on ships this was the time when they developed the "Turtle ship" look it up It's a great stra game mod waiting to be written. I think it would be a great mod that would get alot of attention if done right. If theres any interest in doing this please get back to me. Thanks for the time..........hastati_ad

Hi, have moved question down page as that section meant updates on the Wiki Page not the TW games... you're unlikely to get answers on gaming/modding discussion here its not really designed for it, try either Medieval/Shogun forum on TWC or Shogun forum on Org - there is still some life in the communities for the older games, but not a lot! -Makanyane 02:53, 1 January 2008 (CST)

Anti-spam bot measure added

I've just enabled a newly-written extension by Nick Jenkins, CommentSpam. This should significantly reduce if not eliminate the gibberish bot spam we've been getting. For now, all denials are logged at Special:Log and so should show up on Special:Recentchanges with edits and so on: if it seems to be working well, that can be disabled to stop the page from being clogged up. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 13:16, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Testing . . . —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 13:35, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

This isn't working. I have to look at it at some point. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 21:03, 5 November 2007 (CST)

Heh, actually this actual page got attacked. But yeah, this seems to be working, it just isn't catching everyone. It's blocked a couple hundred edits so far. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 19:02, 17 November 2007 (CST)

Software update

I've added a few months' worth of software updates. If things go wrong, PM me or post on my talk page or something. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 18:01, 25 March 2008 (UTC)