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TWC Staff are looking at transferring the lists of tutorials for each Total War game onto the Wiki.  This will mean that Content and other staff, and general members, can all help keep them up-to-date without needing moderator permissions - and the wiki also provides better formatting options (Table of Contents, and sub-headings etc) - and an easier to view 'history' to spot what's been added when...
 
TWC Staff are looking at transferring the lists of tutorials for each Total War game onto the Wiki.  This will mean that Content and other staff, and general members, can all help keep them up-to-date without needing moderator permissions - and the wiki also provides better formatting options (Table of Contents, and sub-headings etc) - and an easier to view 'history' to spot what's been added when...
  
Once we've got the indexes up-to-date (or at least better than forum versions) we can get stickied threads put in the game sections to direct forum users to the wiki page/s, along with a helpful message about how to get a wiki account to help make updates/corrections.
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Once we've got the indexes up-to-date (or at least better than forum versions) we can get stickied threads put in the game sections to direct forum users to the wiki page/s, along with a helpful message about how to get a wiki account to help make updates/corrections. ''EDITED to add - and have existing threads un-stickied with link to wiki page added at the top.''
  
 
If you find threads in the tutorials section that you don't think should be there, please paste url on this page; [[TWC Wiki:Tutorial Indexes Project/misplaced-threads]] so we can get moderation to look at them as a batch.
 
If you find threads in the tutorials section that you don't think should be there, please paste url on this page; [[TWC Wiki:Tutorial Indexes Project/misplaced-threads]] so we can get moderation to look at them as a batch.
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=Queries/Issues=
 
=Queries/Issues=
 
1.  How much do we try and standardise this, e.g. do we want separate pages for Tutorials, Resources, & Tools for every game regardless of how many (how few) entries they might have?
 
1.  How much do we try and standardise this, e.g. do we want separate pages for Tutorials, Resources, & Tools for every game regardless of how many (how few) entries they might have?
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::''A= Trying to get everything on one index page per game - but marking Tool/Tutorial/Resource/Answer see notes template''
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2.  How much to try and standardise topic headings, e.g. Mapping / Units/ Sounds / db Editing?  Mak' suspects we could standardise RTW with M2TW; and then probably all the Warscape ones together (though there's probably some oddities like only Shogun allowing new maps?)
 
2.  How much to try and standardise topic headings, e.g. Mapping / Units/ Sounds / db Editing?  Mak' suspects we could standardise RTW with M2TW; and then probably all the Warscape ones together (though there's probably some oddities like only Shogun allowing new maps?)
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::''A= Trying to get everything to use this layout [[TWC Wiki:Tutorial Indexes Project/subject headings]] - the actual titles of some sections will vary with game, but layout should be the same.  (also don't include sub-headings if there's nothing to go in them)''
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3.  Method of handling Tutorials/Tools that apply to multiple games.  
 
3.  Method of handling Tutorials/Tools that apply to multiple games.  
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:Include them only on a general 'Warscape Tutorials List'? (might be harder to find)
 
:Include them only on a general 'Warscape Tutorials List'? (might be harder to find)
 
:Stick them on a template that could be 'transcluded' into each warscape game's page? (so they'd only need updating in the one place)
 
:Stick them on a template that could be 'transcluded' into each warscape game's page? (so they'd only need updating in the one place)
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::''A= There seem to be slight annoying variations within the warscape games, so relevant ones probably need pasting on each.  Modelling or Graphics (e.g. "how to use Photoshop") tutorials that aren't game specific should go here [[Modelling, Textures and Graphics - Modding Index]] only.''
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4.  Find someone helpful that knows enough about Warscape modding to identify all the Tools/Tutorials that are common to multiple games!  '''NOTE: Please don't anyone go off and bug modders for help without clearing it with Wiki Director first!'''
 
4.  Find someone helpful that knows enough about Warscape modding to identify all the Tools/Tutorials that are common to multiple games!  '''NOTE: Please don't anyone go off and bug modders for help without clearing it with Wiki Director first!'''
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::''(we could still do a "Warscape Modding Index" overall page, but as they seem to have variations, that's probably best kept in the [[Modding Portal]] sections)''
  
 
=Status=
 
=Status=
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Wiki has:
 
Wiki has:
*[[RTW_Modding_Tutorials_(index)]] - which was updated 2017 - which attempts to indicate which tutorials might be more useful
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*[[RTW_Modding_Tutorials_(index)]] - which was updated 2017 - which attempts to indicate which tutorials might be more useful - moved to '''[[Rome: Total War - Modding Index]]'''
 
*[[RTW Modding Tools]] -  looks like 2011 (history on old category page)
 
*[[RTW Modding Tools]] -  looks like 2011 (history on old category page)
  
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Wiki has:
 
Wiki has:
*[[M2TW_Modding_Tutorials]]  - which is mainly 2009
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*[[M2TW_Modding_Tutorials]]  - which is mainly 2009 - contents pasted to '''[[Medieval II: Total War - Modding Index]]''' - 90% fixed - not promoted on forum yet - old [[M2TW_Modding_Tools]] incorporated.
*[[M2TW_Modding_Tools]] - which was partially updated 2018
 
  
 
==Empire (ETW)==
 
==Empire (ETW)==
Forum has:
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'''BASE DONE'''
*[https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?691495-Links-to-basic-how-to-guides-for-new-modders Links to basic 'how to' guides for new modders] - which doesn't seem to have many things included
 
*There's lots of threads in tutorials section - and from here on the tutorials sections aren't divided into sub-categories!
 
  
 
Wiki has:
 
Wiki has:
*[[ETW_Modding_Tutorials]] - text was updated 2012
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* '''[[Empire: Total War - Modding Index]]'''
*[[ETW_Modding_Tools]] - very empty!
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*list on the [[Modding Portal]] - (which needs to change to make the headings easily linkable!)
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Forum has:
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*[https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?477691-ETW-Index-of-Modding-Tutorials-Resources-amp-Tools-(Last-Update-21-Dec-2011) ETW Index] - which now has link to wiki index
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*[https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?691495-Links-to-basic-how-to-guides-for-new-modders Links to basic 'how to' guides for new modders] - links from this now on wiki index page
  
 
==Napoleon (NTW)==
 
==Napoleon (NTW)==
 
Forum has:
 
Forum has:
*[https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?477898-NTW-Index-of-Modding-Tutorials-Resources-amp-Tools-(Last-Update-21-Dec-2011) NTW Index of Modding Tutorials, Resources & Tools (Last Update: 21 Dec, 2011)] - actually updated 2014 but title not changed
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*[https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?477898-NTW-Index-of-Modding-Tutorials-Resources-amp-Tools-(Last-Update-21-Dec-2011) NTW Index of Modding Tutorials, Resources & Tools (Last Update: 21 Dec, 2011)] - actually updated 2014 but title not changed  
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- temporary wiki format version here: [[TWC Wiki:Tutorial Indexes Project/NTW forum list]] for checking/sorting/copy pasting
  
 
Wiki has:
 
Wiki has:
*[[NTW_Modding_Tutorials]]  - which looks like 2011 but only beginners bits
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*[[NTW_Modding_Tutorials]]  - which looks like 2011 but only beginners bits - moved to '''[[Napoleon: Total War - Modding Index]]''' and Modding Portal content pasted in - NEEDS SORTING!
 
*[[NTW_Modding_Tools]]
 
*[[NTW_Modding_Tools]]
*possibly better list on [[Modding_Portal]]
 
  
  
 
==Shogun2 (TWS2)==
 
==Shogun2 (TWS2)==
Forum has:
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'''BASE DONE'''
*[https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?443435-TWS2-Index-of-Modding-Tutorials-Resources-amp-Tools-(Last-Update-21-Dec-2011) TWS2 Index of Modding Tutorials, Resources & Tools (Last Update: 21 Dec, 2011)] - actually showing 2014 edit...
 
  
 
Wiki has:
 
Wiki has:
*[[TWS2 Tutorials (index)]] - WIP - [[User:Akar]] currently working on.
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*'''[[Total War: Shogun 2 - Modding Index]]''' by  [[User:Akar]] - check all of [[TWS2_Modding_Tools]] is included
*[[TWS2_Modding_Tools]]
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Forum has:
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*[https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?443435-TWS2-Index-of-Modding-Tutorials-Resources-amp-Tools-(Last-Update-21-Dec-2011) TWS2 Index of Modding Tutorials, Resources & Tools (Last Update: 21 Dec, 2011)] - which now has link to wiki
  
 
==RomeII (TWR2)==
 
==RomeII (TWR2)==
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Wiki has:
 
Wiki has:
*very short list on [[Modding Portal]]
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*'''[[Total War: Rome II - Modding Index]]''' - [[User:Akar]]'s version switched in, not promoted on forum yet.
  
 
==Attila (TWA)==
 
==Attila (TWA)==
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Wiki has:
 
Wiki has:
*short list on [[Modding Portal]]
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*'''[[Total War: Attila - Modding Index]]''' copied from [[Modding Portal]]
  
 
==Warhammer I/II (TWW)==
 
==Warhammer I/II (TWW)==
Forum has:
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'''BASE DONE'''
*No index list - lots of 'resources' a few tutorials
 
  
 
Wiki has:
 
Wiki has:
*short list on [[Modding Portal]]
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*'''[[Total War: Warhammer - Modding Index]]''' by [[User:Makanyane]] - now includes everything on Modding Portal list and from threads in Tutorials forum including Tools - needs common stuff from other games - '''linked from forum'''
*New page; [[Warhammer Modding Tutorials and Tools]] - [[User:Makanyane]] working on - now includes everything on Modding Portal list and from threads in Tutorials forum - needs agreement on consistent formatting with other pages
 
  
 
==Three Kingdoms (TW3K)==
 
==Three Kingdoms (TW3K)==
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Wiki has:
 
Wiki has:
*zero - someone forgot to add it to the Modding Portal...
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*'''[[Total War: Three Kingdoms - Modding Index]]''' - by [[User:zoner16]]
  
 
==Thrones of Britannia (ToB)==
 
==Thrones of Britannia (ToB)==

Latest revision as of 11:22, 1 September 2020

TWC Staff are looking at transferring the lists of tutorials for each Total War game onto the Wiki. This will mean that Content and other staff, and general members, can all help keep them up-to-date without needing moderator permissions - and the wiki also provides better formatting options (Table of Contents, and sub-headings etc) - and an easier to view 'history' to spot what's been added when...

Once we've got the indexes up-to-date (or at least better than forum versions) we can get stickied threads put in the game sections to direct forum users to the wiki page/s, along with a helpful message about how to get a wiki account to help make updates/corrections. EDITED to add - and have existing threads un-stickied with link to wiki page added at the top.

If you find threads in the tutorials section that you don't think should be there, please paste url on this page; TWC Wiki:Tutorial Indexes Project/misplaced-threads so we can get moderation to look at them as a batch.

Queries/Issues

1. How much do we try and standardise this, e.g. do we want separate pages for Tutorials, Resources, & Tools for every game regardless of how many (how few) entries they might have?

A= Trying to get everything on one index page per game - but marking Tool/Tutorial/Resource/Answer see notes template


2. How much to try and standardise topic headings, e.g. Mapping / Units/ Sounds / db Editing? Mak' suspects we could standardise RTW with M2TW; and then probably all the Warscape ones together (though there's probably some oddities like only Shogun allowing new maps?)

A= Trying to get everything to use this layout TWC Wiki:Tutorial Indexes Project/subject headings - the actual titles of some sections will vary with game, but layout should be the same. (also don't include sub-headings if there's nothing to go in them)


3. Method of handling Tutorials/Tools that apply to multiple games.

Try to include them on each of the relevant games' lists? (could be more accurate if something applies to 5 out of 6 games only)
Include them only on a general 'Warscape Tutorials List'? (might be harder to find)
Stick them on a template that could be 'transcluded' into each warscape game's page? (so they'd only need updating in the one place)
A= There seem to be slight annoying variations within the warscape games, so relevant ones probably need pasting on each. Modelling or Graphics (e.g. "how to use Photoshop") tutorials that aren't game specific should go here Modelling, Textures and Graphics - Modding Index only.


4. Find someone helpful that knows enough about Warscape modding to identify all the Tools/Tutorials that are common to multiple games! NOTE: Please don't anyone go off and bug modders for help without clearing it with Wiki Director first!

(we could still do a "Warscape Modding Index" overall page, but as they seem to have variations, that's probably best kept in the Modding Portal sections)

Status

Current status of information is shown by game below.

RTW

Forum has:

Wiki has:

M2TW

Forum has:

Wiki has:

Empire (ETW)

BASE DONE

Wiki has:

Forum has:

Napoleon (NTW)

Forum has:

- temporary wiki format version here: TWC Wiki:Tutorial Indexes Project/NTW forum list for checking/sorting/copy pasting

Wiki has:


Shogun2 (TWS2)

BASE DONE

Wiki has:

Forum has:

RomeII (TWR2)

Forum has:

  • No index - lots of tutorials

Wiki has:

Attila (TWA)

Forum has:

  • No index - lots of tutorials

Wiki has:

Warhammer I/II (TWW)

BASE DONE

Wiki has:

Three Kingdoms (TW3K)

Forum has:

  • No forum list - but only 6 tutorials, 2 tools, 2 resources total in workshop section.

Wiki has:

Thrones of Britannia (ToB)

Forum has:

  • No forum list but only 4 tutorials, 6 tools in section.

Wiki has:

  • zero