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Initially I did not treat this as its own vector of archiving but it is Werety's priority and we go where the motivation lies, and along with mods themselves it's TWC's most important asset.
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Current work on this is a big blob of tutorials based on the indexes by Werety, uploaded here: https://mega.nz/file/EscTWaAb#TacoMXI86JKyqIwV5yJ-2jE4tW9xTf8_92g5hGxyf-s
  
I do think this can complement the saving of mods themselves. Saving tutorials is not the same matter as saving mods but both can be identified for collection, they just need to be rehosted differently.  
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Save a copy of your own if you've got 2gb to spare.
  
 
==Issues==
 
==Issues==
For one many tutorials are flawed or even useless because of image link rot. Woe the day when photobucket is one of the only ones that still delivers the goods. You should see what I've done in the artist's studio. The tutorial index is anorexic. It's impossible to scroll without seeing something flagged as broken because of missing critical images or because the whole thing was a video/image. It's not as bad in TW modding but it's getting there. As I work on curating and cleaning up I find a lot that simply is not worth saving. So there's no point manually trying to do this in bulk: manually saved tutorials need to be chosen for their 'bang for buck'. I follow Werety's lead on this, as well as anyone else with clear thoughts. I may solicit some key modders to opine on this TWC side.
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For one many tutorials are flawed or even useless because of image link rot. Woe the day when photobucket is one of the only ones that still delivers the goods. You should see what I've done in the artist's studio: the tutorial index is anorexic. It's impossible to scroll without seeing something flagged as broken because of missing critical images or because the whole thing was a video/image. It's not as bad in TW modding but it's getting there. As I work on curating and cleaning up I find a lot that simply is not worth saving. Tutorials need to be chosen for their 'bang for buck'. I follow Werety's lead on this, as well as anyone else with clear thoughts. I may solicit some key modders to opine on this TWC side.
  
Another issue is rights. TWC has always been protective of its lawn and rehosting tutorials is an idea that has always stalled, including thoughts of saving them straight to the wiki. Modders are often possessive as well, to the extent of bluntly removing, restoring, removing tutorials over largely political qualms or being resistant to updates. The difficulty of actually updating tutorials if you're not the author has also stunted their utility. I think I have an implementation of this that is agreeable but it's still something held back by red tape. This is something that will need to be figured sooner or later. it raises the issue that even if tutorials are saved, they will need to be updated, perhaps rewritten for a new age. If modders wish to opt out of content being saved for rehost, that must be available to them.
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Another issue is rights. TWC has always been protective of creator's lawns and rehosting tutorials is an idea that has always stalled, including thoughts of saving them straight to the wiki. Modders are often possessive as well, to the extent of bluntly removing, restoring, removing tutorials over largely political qualms or being resistant to updates. The difficulty of actually updating tutorials if you're not the author has also stunted their utility. Saved tutorials will likely require updates or rewrites, and removal requests from original authors may need to be taken in if someone is unhappy with being archived. But we won't worry about this unless someone specifically gets fussed.
  
Tutorials must have a frontend - a wiki, a discord server structured in a particular way, a forum... mods need a chonky host and a pipe. Inevitably tutorials will need modification to be functional on whatever platform hosts them so that is something to keep in mind. Werety leans towards a dedicated discord server and I lean towards wikifying. Honestly why not both, the more copies exist the better...
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Tutorials must have a frontend - a wiki, a discord server structured in a particular way, a forum... right now as long as we have it in some form it's better than nothing.

Latest revision as of 08:30, 10 April 2024

Current work on this is a big blob of tutorials based on the indexes by Werety, uploaded here: https://mega.nz/file/EscTWaAb#TacoMXI86JKyqIwV5yJ-2jE4tW9xTf8_92g5hGxyf-s

Save a copy of your own if you've got 2gb to spare.

Issues

For one many tutorials are flawed or even useless because of image link rot. Woe the day when photobucket is one of the only ones that still delivers the goods. You should see what I've done in the artist's studio: the tutorial index is anorexic. It's impossible to scroll without seeing something flagged as broken because of missing critical images or because the whole thing was a video/image. It's not as bad in TW modding but it's getting there. As I work on curating and cleaning up I find a lot that simply is not worth saving. Tutorials need to be chosen for their 'bang for buck'. I follow Werety's lead on this, as well as anyone else with clear thoughts. I may solicit some key modders to opine on this TWC side.

Another issue is rights. TWC has always been protective of creator's lawns and rehosting tutorials is an idea that has always stalled, including thoughts of saving them straight to the wiki. Modders are often possessive as well, to the extent of bluntly removing, restoring, removing tutorials over largely political qualms or being resistant to updates. The difficulty of actually updating tutorials if you're not the author has also stunted their utility. Saved tutorials will likely require updates or rewrites, and removal requests from original authors may need to be taken in if someone is unhappy with being archived. But we won't worry about this unless someone specifically gets fussed.

Tutorials must have a frontend - a wiki, a discord server structured in a particular way, a forum... right now as long as we have it in some form it's better than nothing.