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(By the way: "edittor" vs "editor")
(By the way: general spelling standards on twc wiki)
 
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:The spelling "edittor" is the more-correct spelling, becuz the 2 "t"s indicate that the "i" is a short vowel rather than a long vowel (as in "bitten", "willow", "hitter/hitting", "spitting", "swimmer/swimming", "runner/running", "matter", "otter", "utter", "rubber", etcetera, versus "biter/biting", "glider/gliding", "hiding", "liking", "maker/making", "smoker/smoking", etcetera). In the way that YOU spell it, the "i" looks like it's a long-i. –[[User:Abolish Javascript|Abolish Javascript]] ([[User talk:Abolish Javascript|talk]]) 08:14, 18 November 2024 (MST)
 
:The spelling "edittor" is the more-correct spelling, becuz the 2 "t"s indicate that the "i" is a short vowel rather than a long vowel (as in "bitten", "willow", "hitter/hitting", "spitting", "swimmer/swimming", "runner/running", "matter", "otter", "utter", "rubber", etcetera, versus "biter/biting", "glider/gliding", "hiding", "liking", "maker/making", "smoker/smoking", etcetera). In the way that YOU spell it, the "i" looks like it's a long-i. –[[User:Abolish Javascript|Abolish Javascript]] ([[User talk:Abolish Javascript|talk]]) 08:14, 18 November 2024 (MST)
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::I am not familiar with any dictionary that supports your assertion and looking up this specific spelling does not corroborate the assertion. The way that I spell it matches results from Spellcheck.net, The Britannica Dictionary, The American Heritage Dictionary, a multitude of other sites and my hardcopy dictionaries on hand. I must insist that the common understanding take precedence here even if you have logic for your forms. Your structure is not common and does not match any other manner of spelling on the wiki, which I would frankly prefer over colloquial correctness, including such spelling as 'more-correct' and probably other forms I haven't mentioned. And as it is we're rather open to the common British ''and'' American understanding so long as pages are consistently written in one or the other.
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::I do not take issue with your spelling and structure for forum posting or conversation like this, but commonality in spelling and grammar is required when making a wiki (in any community I argue). You even use "becuz" in mainspace now that I look, which is fine for a personal userpage but there is no circumstance in which it can replace "because" beyond the examples given, because common knowledge American or British spellings must take point as they have on this wiki since its beginning. These are quirks acceptable to just get content out but not as replacements to existing phrasing, as they are irregularities to make consistent. I will have to insist on this reform for widespread edits on the wiki if the editing is to continue, however much updates are needed or appreciated in structure.
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::[[User:Dismounted Feudal Knight|Dismounted Feudal Knight]] ([[User talk:Dismounted Feudal Knight|talk]]) 12:34, 29 November 2024 (MST)

Latest revision as of 12:34, 29 November 2024

Hello!

Firstly, thank you for your contributions as of late. Regrettably I've not been at my best so been unable to say this sooner.

I have noticed the use of raw HTML in page edits (br, b, the like), and would recommend against it for style consistency in favor of local equivalents (double space, ''' and the like). It's not a real problem but a style recommendation. I would also note the deliberate use of language in certain cases, ie, I believe the historical descriptions on THERA, Legacy of the Great Torment are pulled directly from ingame text. I could be wrong on this however and look forward to your thoughts.

As someone who dislikes runaway javascript use I am sympathetic though in regards to Computer security on the forum, TWC's options on deep configuration changes here are limited. I can see what might be done about flash however as that is a setting which may be available to day to day administrators and I seen no reason to keep it around as a vector at this point.

Hope you're well,

--Dismounted Feudal Knight (talk) 03:29, 4 November 2024 (MST)

I had noticed that you had been gone for some time.
I use the html bold and italics tags becuz they are asymmetric, and thus more-clear in their effect than the symmetric wiki tags, in which you can't distinguish a beginning-tag from an end-tag. I use the html break-tag out of necessity, becuz there is no wiki-code which duz the same thing.
Regarding my changes to the text in the THERA article, I didn't think that it was quoted in-game text, but, even if it is, I think that it's better to have high-quality text in the articles than to have the article-text precisely correspond to the in-game text, no matter how bad the in-game text might be.
Regarding Flash, I recommend that you propose to the other Hex-members a forum-rule to ban the posting of embedded Flash-videos.
And lastly, I'm curious what you mean when you say "I've not been at my best".
But of course, that might be a private matter.
Abolish Javascript (talk) 07:40, 4 November 2024 (MST)
I sympathize that the symmetry is desirable, but would insist as a matter of practice to use wikitext as possible; for BR specifically, there are very few circumstances where it is needed, and unfortunately most of the time when I do see it it is in spam. I defer on the quote matter as it's unclear if it is or is not and if it is, it should be clear anyways. So if it is a clear quote it should stand as it is, but if it is plain text it may as well be updated appropriately.
It would probably be realistic for me to look for flash support in admincp and simply turn it off where found as there's not much reason to have it supported. I don't think anyone has posted a flash video in many years anyway, if it ever happened much in the first place - such is the nature of even an older total war forum.
Circumstantially I have been on other things and my interest in maintenance for TWC has its ups and downs, as it has with many people over the years. I've recently arisen from a fairly deep down. Not much more than that.
Take care, --Dismounted Feudal Knight (talk) 14:55, 6 November 2024 (MST)


By the way

I made a few adjustments to the TWC Wiki editing as a point of feedback (especially regarding editor vs edittor in spelling which I notice carries across a few pages), but aside from convention differences I like the cleanup work. I know you're not a forum regular but you are also the recipient of the following award:

Wiki Editor bronze.png For your determination in wiki improvements. Thank you!

Given you frequent the wiki almost exclusively I thought I'd 'offer' it here too. Feel free to drop it in your userpage, or whatever you'd like.

Thanks again, Dismounted Feudal Knight (talk) 14:08, 14 November 2024 (MST)

The spelling "edittor" is the more-correct spelling, becuz the 2 "t"s indicate that the "i" is a short vowel rather than a long vowel (as in "bitten", "willow", "hitter/hitting", "spitting", "swimmer/swimming", "runner/running", "matter", "otter", "utter", "rubber", etcetera, versus "biter/biting", "glider/gliding", "hiding", "liking", "maker/making", "smoker/smoking", etcetera). In the way that YOU spell it, the "i" looks like it's a long-i. –Abolish Javascript (talk) 08:14, 18 November 2024 (MST)
I am not familiar with any dictionary that supports your assertion and looking up this specific spelling does not corroborate the assertion. The way that I spell it matches results from Spellcheck.net, The Britannica Dictionary, The American Heritage Dictionary, a multitude of other sites and my hardcopy dictionaries on hand. I must insist that the common understanding take precedence here even if you have logic for your forms. Your structure is not common and does not match any other manner of spelling on the wiki, which I would frankly prefer over colloquial correctness, including such spelling as 'more-correct' and probably other forms I haven't mentioned. And as it is we're rather open to the common British and American understanding so long as pages are consistently written in one or the other.
I do not take issue with your spelling and structure for forum posting or conversation like this, but commonality in spelling and grammar is required when making a wiki (in any community I argue). You even use "becuz" in mainspace now that I look, which is fine for a personal userpage but there is no circumstance in which it can replace "because" beyond the examples given, because common knowledge American or British spellings must take point as they have on this wiki since its beginning. These are quirks acceptable to just get content out but not as replacements to existing phrasing, as they are irregularities to make consistent. I will have to insist on this reform for widespread edits on the wiki if the editing is to continue, however much updates are needed or appreciated in structure.
Dismounted Feudal Knight (talk) 12:34, 29 November 2024 (MST)